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Windows 7 upgrade causing endless reboots

Windows 7 upgrade causing endless reboots

By:  Gregg Keizer  On: 26 Oct 2009 For: ComputerWorld (US) Creator

Furious users on a Microsoft support forum say their upgrades are failing, and trapping them in a frustrating cycle that's making ttheir computers useless. Why one user says Windows 7's slogan should be: "My PC. Crippled"

Some users trying to upgrade from Windows Vista to Windows 7 have seen their PCs crippled by an endless series of reboots, according to reports on Microsoft Corp.'s support forum.

A Microsoft engineer writing on the same forum said the company was investigating users' problems, but downplayed them as "isolated issues."

Users began posting messages about the endless reboots Friday, saying that the Windows 7 installation would hang two-thirds through the upgrade. They reported a message on their machines that claimed the upgrade had been unsuccessful and that Vista would be restored. Instead, their PCs again booted to the Windows 7 setup process, failed, then restarted the cycle.

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"My upgrade failed in [the] last step," said a user identified as "Manjigani" in a thread titled "Windows 7 -- Install Message -- Upgrade Unsuccessful" on the Windows 7 support forum. "And now it is in continuous loop. I let it run overnight hoping that it will fix itself, but no luck. I am stuck in limbo."
 
"All the promises of stability and simplicity, and now there are so many problems with installation," bemoaned another used, "Derrty," on the same thread. "I can't even access my laptop nor do I have the ability to roll my system back to Vista. All indications are the install removed any trace of Vista."

Other than trying to upgrade from Vista to Windows 7, there did not seem to be any common characteristics of the computers or the users' actions. Some said that they had purchased a Windows 7 upgrade electronically from Microsoft's online store, others said they had downloaded the upgrade from Digital River, the Minneapolis-based company that fulfills Microsoft's $29.99 offer to college students, while still others said they had bought a retail copy of the new operating system at stores like Best Buy.

Users vented their rage online in scores of messages.

"How on earth is Windows 7 so poorly manufactured that there even NEEDS to be a solution to installation issues?" asked "Chimaera717," who later reported receiving a marketing message from Microsoft while struggling with the endless reboots. "I just got an e-mail from Windows, titled 'Windows 7: Your PC, Simplified.' I really want to e-mail them back and say 'Windows 7: My PC, Crippled'."

Microsoft support engineers entered the thread Sunday, asking for information from affected users, such as the version of Vista running before the Windows 7 upgrade attempt, and what, if any, antivirus software was on the machine.

Sunday afternoon, a support engineer named "Keith" said that some users' problems may be related to the optical drive speed when creating an install DVD from a disk image downloaded from the Microsoft store or through Digital River. "Make sure you are burning the image at the slowest speed possible to avoid corruption on the installation disc," said Keith.

"Digital River and Microsoft are investigating reports of this issue," he added. "This appears to be a series of isolated issues that are often related to the user's Internet provider or installed third-party software."

Students, who have faced other problems with their downloaded Windows 7 upgrades, were told by Microsoft to seek help from Digital River through a special request-help page .
 
One user pointed others to a document published last July on Microsoft's support site. The document outlined the endless reboot problem . "When attempting to upgrade from Windows Vista to Windows 7 the upgrade attempt may fail with the message 'This version of Windows could not be installed, Your previous version of Windows has been restored, and you can continue to use it'," the support document stated. "However, the next reboot of the machine will launch the upgrade process again only to fail with the same message."
 
The document included steps users could take to try to regain control of their crippled computers.

This is not the first time that a Windows upgrade has crippled computers with endless reboots. In February 2008, updates meant to prepare PCs for the release of Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) brought machines to their knees with reboot after reboot. In May 2008, the upgrade to Windows XP SP3 did the same. Microsoft blamed computer makers for the XP snafu.
 

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gregg keizer Gregg Keizer is a contributor to the International Data Group (IDG) News Service, which publishes global technology stories from bureaus around the world to more than 300 publications in more than 60 countries.

Comments (11)

russell hickingbottom
by russell hickingbottom 10/26/2009 6:29:38 PM

hmmm... maybe a Mac is looking better after all.

rob sciuk
by rob sciuk 11/2/2009 11:45:14 AM

Ubuntu 9.10 is out, and the installation process has the option of using the entire disk, thus removing Vista, 7, XP, whatever. Works for me!

carl katz
by carl katz 11/2/2009 12:05:10 PM

I suppose the lesson in this is to always burn an image of your previous build/OS to an external drive before upgrading in case anything goes wrong, allowing the possiblity of rolling back to the old OS.

I have never trusted the "in place" upgrade process and have always imaged, backup up data and started from scratch with any new OS. In fact, I have always heard horror stories from a percentage of folks who have chosen the "in place" upgrade option.

joseph asprey
by joseph asprey 11/2/2009 3:32:25 PM

Just in time I have found out that all the nightmares about Wondows 7 are true. There will be no Windows 7 on any of my computers for, at the very least, a period of 2 more years. If I remain with Microsoft at all will be a miracle.

rod rod
by rod rod 11/3/2009 9:15:49 AM

Upgrades never work. Backup, boot from cd and reformat the partition and install. Works every time.

heather grant
by heather grant 11/4/2009 4:11:55 PM

I swtiched this summer on a beta copy of Windows 7. I took a image of my Vista machine and loaded Windows 7 from scratch and didn't have any problems. WIndows 7 is a much better program then Vista.

m jan
by m jan 11/12/2009 5:34:39 PM

We performed on one of our system a clean install of Windows 7 Pro downloaded from www.win741.com (Student Promotion $29.99) and the Installation went through like a charm.

I noticed that the installation was much faster, smoother than XP and most definitely Vista.

For performance of the system - i think its a great stable system so far .. its been used for 2+ weeks now without any issues....

MJ

x x
by x x 11/19/2009 11:33:52 AM

Users who haven't learned yet that an UPGRADE of a software package is almost always a hatchet job should not be allowed to do these sorts of tasks.

Anyone with any experience with Windows would know that the ONLY safe way is a full install of the operating system. And as Winsupersite pointed out - and hundreds of blogs now regurgitate - the Upgrade discs are perfectly capable of giving you a full install.

community.winsupersite.com/.../using-upgrade-m

x x
by x x 11/19/2009 11:37:09 AM

community.winsupersite.com/.../clean-install-w

edwin wityshyn
by edwin wityshyn 12/12/2009 9:49:31 PM

I imaged my Vista Home SP3 hard drive prior to running the Upgrade software from MS provided disks. On computer #1, it took almost 3 hours to complete, however I believe I only had to click my mouse probably 4 times. Why? probably because of 80GB worth of software installed LOL.

Computer #2, exact same model/configuration, also did backup prior to upgrade from Vista Home SP3, upgrade total time was about 20 minutes. No sweat, no problems.

Computer #3 was a freshly formatted Hdd and Win7 Ultimate. Installation time was about the same as Computer #2.

Personally, I don't see what all the crying and whining is about. Even with the tremendous amount of programs installed in computer #1, it still "chugged away" and got the job done, and saved me literally days from reinstalling software. Otherwise, I try to keep my machines clean and clear of "bloat-ware" and "free-ware" crap that is most likely the cause of all the problems people seem to be having.

As far as I'm concerned, MS got it right this time, and the wife and I have been happily using our machines for the past month with not one problem. Well Done Microsoft!

guillaume charest
by guillaume charest 12/23/2009 2:05:25 PM

The crying is about users having troubles with the upgrade function. As it is said, not every users had that issue, but it is more common than they wished to say.

The problem with upgrades are always a possibility where there is almost no chance of this kind of frustration with a fresh install. Yes, it may take some more time, but you're sure you backed up every thing in the process.

Guillaume

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