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Dad performs IT makeover at son’s school

Dad performs IT makeover at son’s school

By:  Jennifer Kavur  On: 10 Mar 2010 For: ComputerWorld Canada Creator

IT pros with kids should consider volunteering their talents to schools, suggests one consultant who overhauled the IT lab at his son’s elementary school in Mississauga. Why Windows 7 was the answer for PCs that took 20 minutes to boot

When Mitch Garvis asked his son’s elementary school teacher to print a document and the teacher asked him to come back and pick it up the next day, he realized something was wrong with the school’s IT system.

“I asked, ’Can’t you just print it up now?’ He said, ‘Well, it takes about thirty minutes to log on and open the program and get it printed,” said Garvis.

An independent IT consultant based in Oakville, Ont., Garvis decided to tackle the issue and volunteered to overhaul the school’s computer labs and network.

The IT makeover involved 30 computers spanning administration, classrooms and the computer lab at Meadow Green Academy’s south campus.

A private school based in Mississauga, Ont., Meadow Green has roughly 20 staff and 130 students across two campuses for students in kindergarten to Grade 8.

Rather than purchase new computers, ranging from $400 to $1,000 a piece, Garvis upgraded the existing PCs with memory and video cards that cost roughly $100 per machine to support the move from Windows XP to Windows 7.

“Most of them were four-year-old Dell Pentium desktops, and one of the great tools that I used was the Microsoft Assessment and Planning Toolkit, which literally performed a scan of all of the computers on the network,” he said.

According to the scan, the computers had 256MB of RAM and videocards that would not have been compatible with the drivers, said Garvis. “The computers were perfectly good. They didn’t need to be replaced,” he said. 

Microsoft Canada donated the licenses of Windows 7 to Meadow Green, said Garvis, and the school purchased the Microsoft Office 2007 suite with the intention of upgrading to Office 2010.

But the older operating system aside, the problem wasn’t so much about the computers as it was the lack of management and maintenance of the machines, Garvis pointed out.

“It was easy for the teachers and students to look at these computers and say they were junk. But they weren’t junk. They weren’t properly managed and maintained,” he said.

The PCs were extremely slow, Garvis pointed out. “When I say very slow, it would literally take them 20 minutes to log on, start a program and do anything,” he said.

“If you have a 45-minute computer class or lunch break and you have to spend 20 minutes logging in and starting your program, then you are not going to do it,” said Garvis.

Garvis said there were a lot of reasons the machines ran so slowly, from lack of disk space to lack of centralized tools to virus infections. A computer with a 40GB hard drive, for example, might have had 20MB of free space.  

Now students and teachers can log in and have their applications running within 90 seconds from a cold boot, he said.

The volunteer makeover was “a real learning experience,” said Garvis. “I encourage every parent with the knowledge of IT to offer to volunteer at their kids school and do what I did,” he said.


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Comments (22)

A fan of what works
by A fan of what works 3/11/2010 11:00:17 AM

Too bad they hadn't bought Macs in the first place.

Pay now or pay later.

IT Guy
by IT Guy 3/11/2010 11:35:31 AM

If they were looking for speed, Linux boots to the login prompt in about 15 seconds.

They could have saved the price of Office 2007 by going with OpenOffice (Windows or Linux).

The hardware upgrades would not have been required for Linux, or would have been a lot less.

No viruses, safe web browsing, etc.

However, the volunteering at the school is to be commended. No doubt he went with what he knew.

Sven
by Sven 3/11/2010 12:03:29 PM

Dear "a fan of what works", please dismount from your "Mac high horse" at once! Not everything can be solved with a Mac. I work with them every day and they definitely have their share of issues - and often not easily resolved!

Rick
by Rick 3/11/2010 3:39:13 PM

I'm gonna have to go with IT Guy's response - Linux & OpenOffice would have been better, cost effective solutions in the long run.

Groon
by Groon 3/12/2010 9:39:32 AM

If we could have a little more critical thinking here and a little less fanboy response, I think the central issue in this article is actually a little disturbing.

The premise being articulated is that four-year-old computers required an upgrade in RAM, video, and OS in order to boot in less than 20 minutes. In point of fact, a simple reinstall of XP would have restored the machines' original speed. Coupled with a RAM upgrade, the boot time could have been increased to better than what the same hardware would achieve with Windows 7.

The reason these machines were slow had nothing to do with their age or hardware, but everything to do with lack of routine maitenance. To suggest that "Windows 7" is the answer to slow machines is irresponsible reporting, and one wonders if Microsoft themselves may have had a hand the article's publication.

IT Guy
by IT Guy 3/12/2010 11:36:18 AM

Hi Groon,

IT Guy again. Thanks for branding my alternate thinking as "fanboy". Isn't your suggestion of sticking with windows just as much of a Windows fanboy comment?

Both of our positions are sound, so there is no sense in fighting or name calling. The end decision of the school should have been based on sound business analysis of the requirements discussed in the article. Certainly, we can agree that there was no requirement listed that only Windows 7 could fulfil. In the end, the school spent more money that either of our solutions would have cost, which is unfortunate.

With the father's more expensive solution (subsidized by Microsoft as per the article), the school is now running supported software. This may have been an unstated requirement. Windows XP and whatever versions of Office they were running, while they still work fine, are deprecated. Microsoft will not provide a full set of patches for these old systems indefinitely. So, it makes sense to put a solution in place which will allow the school to update the systems on an ongoing basis. Set it and forget it does not work with computers past a couple of years as the school experienced.

My Linux solution provides all the software required for free, and also likely reduces or eliminates hardware upgrade costs. Your reinstall does the same.

One difference in the solutions is looking forward to how the systems will be maintained. Major Linux distributions are patched on an ongoing basis and upgrades to new releases are free. Microsoft does not allow upgrades for free as we all know and this is party the reason the school got into the jam they were in.

Support for Linux can be had through the distribution vendor (e.g. Canonical for Ubuntu) or third party suppliers if one requires paid support. But, most problems can be solved via support forums and Google searches.

The article alludes that the school is not flush with cash, and Linux is a lower cost alternative that I would have hoped any independent IT consultant, such as the father, would have considered given the budget constraint. A reinstall, as you suggested, is also a viable alternative that should have been considered.

I also agree that had the critical thinking that you and I applied to the situation been included and discussed in the article, it would have been a far better and useful article.

Dave Webb
by Dave Webb 3/12/2010 11:57:43 AM

Groon: I can't let the implication that Microsoft "had a hand" in the article stand unchallenged. Microsoft was a source for the article, as they are for many articles. You can't write about tech and not talk to Microsoft. And my reporter did not "suggest" that Windows 7 is the solution to anything; she simply reported someone else's experience, which is not "irresponsible."

Would a critical comparison of Linux versus Windows have been useful? Undoubtedly. But it would have been a different article. This is a case study; a Windows/Linux debate would have been the ever-familiar scope creep.

In this case, for a variety of reasons -- the father's particular expertise, the availability of donated licences, etc. -- this was the right solution from the father's and the school's perspectives. A different father, with different expertise, you probably get a different solution, and we get a different story.

Groon
by Groon 3/12/2010 12:27:00 PM

I think my comments have been misconstrued. I have no interest in any OS wars and have no opinion about whether any OS is better than another. The sole purpose of my comments was to point out that the school division in question spent thousands of dollars upgrading hardware and then benefited from a grant also worth thousands of dollars in OS licenses, and that this was identified in the article as a "solution" to the problem of machines that were booting too slowly. That is akin to saying that replacing the engine in my car is a "solution" to it running rough, or not starting.

I am not saying that Windows is better than Linux, nor am I saying that Linux is better than Windows, nor am I making any comment about Macs. Those comments all came before my comments were posted, and were made by other readers.

As for my remark about Microsoft's involvement, that was meant to highlight the fact that this uncritical piece of writing portrayed Microsoft as providing the solution to a problem which (a) would have cost anybody not fortunate enough to get a grant from Microsoft even more money than they already spent on hardware upgrades, and (b) could have been solved at no additional cost by simply re-prepping the workstations as they originally were.

If a technical writer is not going to look critically at their work and ask, "was this really the best solution?", "what motivated the players to suggest this solution?", "were there better or worse alternatives to solve this issue?", or even, "are there any issues beyond the superficial facts of the events of this story worth looking into?", then the result is always going to be pieces like this.

Maybe the writer genuinely did not intend to write a piece that sounded like Microsoft propaganda.

But that's certainly how it reads!

IT Guy
by IT Guy 3/12/2010 1:44:14 PM

Groon, I'm with you.

Dave, the article byline says "Why Windows 7 was the answer for PCs that took 20 minutes to boot". I read the article to find out why.

I never found the answer. I found the solution to the problem, but not the cause of the problem. So, like Groon, I proposed an alternate solution to making PCs boot in less than 20 minutes.

I expect more from Computerworld Canada. You know, if you had just left the second half of the byline off the article, I would have been more complacent. I suspect Groon would as well.

As for this being a "case study" - in my experience, case studies have some details to study. This was more of a recounting of events.

Regardless of lack of technical detail, it is a fabulous story of an IT consultant helping his child's school - that is great and is to be commended. Keep those stories coming, but cut back on the hype.

Dave Webb
by Dave Webb 3/12/2010 1:45:21 PM

Groon:

Linux is not better than Windows, nor is Windows better than Linux. They're different tools for different circumstances; the best you can say is, one is more appropriate than the other in a given set of circumstances. Let the devotees argue that point; I don't have a dog in that fight. (Let the hate mail pour in ...)

Examining all the alternatives you suggest would be appropriate for a 3,000-word white paper, and there's a place for those, but we're dealing with an 800-word daily news story about an IT pro who contributed to his community. It's not really a story about Microsoft or Linux.

But the debate has inspired an idea. I'd like to find a (small) school or non-profit institution with a degraded infrastructure like that. We'd inventory the hardware, necessary applications, etc. Then you and and IT Guy -- sorry, I don't have your real names -- could outline what your approaches to the problem would be and the rationale behind them. It's a different kind of story, but it's one I'd love to run. And it would certainly demonstrate that there's more than one "right" solution to any problem.

Let me know if you'd care to take me up on it.

Groon
by Groon 3/12/2010 1:59:58 PM

Dave: As it happens, I already work for a large school division, and I can tell you that when workstations are booting slowly, it is common practice to re-image them. This restores them to like-new condition, costs no money, and very little technician time or down-time.

The *only* thing I have been trying to say in my posts is that this article - with the byline "Why Windows 7 was the answer for PCs that took 20 minutes to boot" - was very misleading and looked for all the world like Microsoft hype.

I did not advocate changing operating system or software. I simply pointed out that the so-called solution of the article was not very well investigated.

The systems in question came with Windows XP. There are numerous independent lab studies that have demonstrated that - given identical hard ware - Windows XP boots faster than Windows 7. Because of my knowledge of this research, I was intrigued by the byline. What, I wondered, have they learned about Windows 7 that I don't know?

When I read the article, I realized that the problem had not been "solved" so much as sledgehammered.

As far as my experience with the school environment goes, I can assure you that, if the school is complaining that their machines are slow in booting, the solution they are looking for will have the machines booting quickly, with as few changes as possible. Teachers work in a high-stress, tightly-scheduled environment, and if your solution is to throw a new operating system at them, then that solution is not going to be as favourably received as simply fixing the problem.

Re-imaging the workstations to their pristine state would solve the problem. No muss. No fuss. No cost.

And that is the *only* point I ever tried to make. If you would only review the posts, you will see that I never once made any comments to suggest that *any* other operating system was a solution. That was IT Guy. And also your writer.

:-)

Dave Webb
by Dave Webb 3/12/2010 2:14:05 PM

We're talking past each other at this point, so I'll drop it. However, I was serious about the proposed article. Let me know if you'd be interested (that's you too, IT Guy).

IT Guy
by IT Guy 3/12/2010 3:01:19 PM

Hi Dave,

I'm game to help out you out. Let's discuss what you're thinking about.

Helpdesk Empathy
by Helpdesk Empathy 3/15/2010 9:24:21 AM

The volunteer aspect of the story is neat and the community should get involved more wtih school boards, providing much needed resources.

That being said, I've seen (as a parent) the implications of non-coordinated or managed resources volunteering at individual schools without coordination through the central IT organization. A local public school principle had arranged for a 'volunteer' to do some basic maintenance and support. That effort resulted in three days of downtime for the office admin-staff while necessary mapping to admin applications, printers, and share resources were restored. During that time no students could be registered, student records (including emergency contacts) could not be accessed, cheques and funds could not be dispersed, etc.

School IT environments are complex. They are not the 'little red school houses' of old, volunteers should be embraced by school board and IT - but they efforts must be managed and coordinated.

Up to my ears
by Up to my ears 3/15/2010 10:14:04 AM

Helpdesk Empathy is absolutely right. Can any IT pro out there imagine a scenario where a 'volunteer' comes into a branch office and 'fixes things'? I'm sure this article is missing a lot of the back story. I rather suspect that this was a pilot of Win 7 facilitated by the the volunteer (Microsoft partner?) and coordinated by the IT Dept. This is a great thing. I'm quite sure the fix was much more than Win 7. The new image probably was stripped down (schools accumulate a lot of junk) and the approach to roaming profiles fixed. School boards strive for consistency and every last one of them in Ontario have coordinated approaches to image management and student log in. A knowledgable IT Pro who volunteers with the board is a welcome thing but it must be done at the central level. There is still a role for volunteers at the school level but it sure isn't messing with hardware or image.

TonyM
by TonyM 3/15/2010 2:50:33 PM

Poster

"A fan of what works 3/11/2010 11:00:17 AM

Too bad they hadn't bought Macs in the first place.

Pay now or pay later."

Very True and correct statement. As a Novell MCNE and MSCE, I find it amusing that IT personnel always recommend the complex solution to neophytes. Users in any environment are not interested in can I modify the "Registry" or change the kernel of the OS. Just give them a user friendly environment.

The siren of Free software plays a very enticing song "Free, FRee,,FREe, FREE". Who maintains the software version current. My Applications on my Macintosh computers determine the existence of a a software change and prompts me to load and install the change with the click of a mouse.

So Simple, so Easy, so Artful is the Macintosh way. BTW Many studies have shown that the Total Cost of Ownership is 25 to 40% lower for a comparable Macintosh platform than a PC platform. TCO includes acquisition, training, support, productivity,...

IT Guy
by IT Guy 3/16/2010 10:52:46 AM

To TonyM:

You might be surprised to learn that Linux and MacOS have the same Unix heritage under the hood. They are extremely similar in many ways.

One similarity is the update mechanism. Like the Mac, the OS tells you when there is an update to any piece of installed software (OS or application) and you just click the "apply" button and get on with your work (no need to wait for a reboot).

Of course, you can also configure your system to download and apply the patches without your involvement, but I like to know what is happening. It is comforting to read about an update to something like Firefox, or SSL and then see your system update itself shortly thereafter.

The comprehensive update mechanism is one of the features I have enjoyed the most. There is no requirement to update every (or any) application through a separate manual process from a separate site.

You use the exact same mechanism to upgrade between OS releases, however, there is a difference between Linux and MacOS in this case. With Linux, the upgrades are free. Not so with the Mac.

But, Linux is not about the "free" - it is about the freedom.

Some Guy
by Some Guy 3/16/2010 2:55:50 PM

The real problem was that this is a private school with 130 students. Public schools do not have these issues because the school boards have the resources for the necessary centralized systems to efficiently handle O/S (re)deployment, antivirus management, etc. across all their schools.

EK
by EK 3/16/2010 4:27:56 PM

I wonder why, if Microsoft sponsored this article, they didnt suggest their Multipoint technology. This may be a better solution for small(ish) schools.

www.microsoft.com/windows/multipoint/default.aspx

Score one for public schools
by Score one for public schools 3/17/2010 10:29:54 AM

I think I would be disappointed if, after having paid extra to put my child in a private school, that the student computer system was so poorly maintained that it was this unusable.

GM
by GM 3/17/2010 1:13:21 PM

While there are many interesting points to the Win/Mac/Linux debates, there are still a lot of schools (and other organizations) who make their choice of OS based on:

1. What are the students using at home

2. What skills do the teachers have

3. What will be the most useful to the students when they get out of school

Oh.. to be able to dispense with practicalities like these and choose based on technical superiority.

Up to my ears
by Up to my ears 3/19/2010 10:09:15 AM

Some Guy,

Understood that this is a small private school where the IT department is probably one of the teachers. In this context a volunteer is indeed working for 'Central' and it's all good.

My concern with the article is that Garvis is casting this experience onto all schools with his call to volunteerism. Nothing wrong with volunteerism. I just want to ensure that IT Pros who volunteer understand the nature of Computer Support within school boards. Their help is most welcome but it can't interfere with programs and processes in place. Fresh eyes and broad experience is welcome to review and improve those processes.

GM

Well said. I didn't want to get into the mac/win/linux debate but you have hit the nail on the head.

As an asside - Win 7 is, imho, a good solid OS. Much better than Vista. What people must understand though is the great features mentioned in this article - bitlocker and applocker - are only available in Ultimate and Enterprise. Schools cannot buy Ultimate under their Volume Licensing Agreements. Enterprise is only available if you are on software assurance at around $24/computer/year. This adds around $100 to $125 to the total cost of ownership over the typical 5-6 year life cycle of the computer. That's a pretty significant cost and I would not expect boards to be rushing into an upgrade program.

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