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Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.


Bell throttling wholesale providers of DSL services has further opened up the conversations around Net Neutrality. Michael Geist has written about the mounting call for action on net neutrality from organizations such as the National Union of Public and General Employees (NUPGE) and Council of Canadians. I strongly applaud and join in this call.

The throttling of wholesale traffic by Bell Canada is, however, an issue that is related but distinct. Its link to the net neutrality debate needs to be understood, as well as the ways in which it is quite different.

While the Internet is often drawn as a big cloud that we connect to, it is sometimes useful to look inside the cloud. As a primer I would recommend reading some specific pages on Wikipedia including: Internet, Packet Switching and the End-to-end principle.

What you will find is a series of routers which are connected to each other via some sort of connection. In order to get from your computer to some other computer elsewhere on the Internet your packets will pass over a connection to a router which will decide which connection to send your packet through. By hopping from router to router over these connections, your packet eventually reaches its destination.

Congestion happens when one of those network links or routers is not able to keep up with the traffic attempting to be routed through it, causing congestion as some packets are simply not able to be sent. Sometimes this congestion is a legitimate technical limitation, such as with the relatively high cost submarine communications cables. Other times congestion is less legitimate, such as connectivity within and between major urban centres on a single continent where high capacity optical fiber is relatively cheap and largely underutilized.

The “last mile” link to customer premises

The connection between the customer premises (home or business) and the first router of the chosen ISP should be thought of as special when trying to analyze policy questions. This link is often called the “last mile” connection. It is the ability of a customer to make their own choices for this ISP in a free market which allows them to hire the ISP which is making the business choices that best match their needs. It is also this competition to meet the increasing demands of customers which creates the incentives for innovation within this sector.

Some customers may want a dirt-cheap ISP which only acquires adequate network capacity to connect with other parts of the Internet to handle small loads from customers. In this case if a large number of customers all try to utilize this smaller network link at the same time, congestion will occur.

Customers may want to hire an ISP which acquires adequate network capacity to handle a larger load. For connections between computers in and between major urban centres within a continent, network capacity is quite cheap so this level of congestion-free connectivity between these points should be expected.

Competitive Access

For historical reasons, often the only communications connections that are made to customer premises are in the form of telephone or cable television connections. This has meant that the phone and cable companies have a duopoly on that “last mile” connection. Given this situation, various regulators have mandated that third party providers be allowed competitive access to this infrastructure. In the case of phone companies, this has included both competition for telephone services as well as data services.

This would mean that ISPs that are competitors to Bell would be able to offer services to customers where that “last mile” connection would happen over Bell “owned” wires. The fact that Bell (or other local phone companies in different parts of Canada) owns the wires should be entirely hidden to the customer who would be hiring services from that competing ISP.

For reasons I don’t understand, the CRTC continues to treat phone and cable companies as different, even in an era of convergence where many of these companies equally offer phone, broadcasting and data (Internet, etc) services. While Canada’s phone companies are mandated to offer competitive access, the cable companies thus far are not.

In my case I have two DSL connections at home. One is from a company called Storm Internet and the other is from the National Capital Freenet which is a reseller of the Internet connectivity services of TekSavvy Solutions Inc. One of these DSL connections is shared on the physical pair of copper wires with my Bell Canada supplied phone line, and the other is a DSL on what is called a “dry loop” where on this pair of wires I get DSL but I do not also have a voice phone line.

In these cases there is a physical pair or wires that connect between my home and a central office (CO). In some cases the competing ISP has equipment in the CO, and in other cases the phone company will route digital data from the CO to the ISP. At this point this a point-to-point communications between the customer and the ISP, and is not routed as “Internet traffic”. In many cases the packets are organized as Ethernet as if it was one big LAN.

What Bell is doing with their “throttling”

While Bell is mandated to offer competitive access to competing ISPs, they have under-built the capacity between the COs and the competing ISPs such that there is congestion on there internal network. If this congestion were affecting voice traffic, making voice communication jittery, we would clearly recognize this as broken infrastructure that Bell must fix in order for them to continue to offer the minimum expected level of service. Somehow since this is data traffic they thought they could get away with under-building their network such that there would be congestion, and then implement their own chosen “policy” to prioritize traffic.

We shouldn’t be focusing on what policy is the right policy, or getting this issue confused with the related but different “Net Neutrality” debate. We should be questioning why Bell has under-built their network such that they cannot fulfill the legitimate basic requirements of the competitive access mandate they have been given, and we should be pushing the CRTC to enforce these basic requirements.

The important link between competitive access and the “Net Neutrality” debate

While I believe that market forces can solve many of the problems discussed under the title of “Net Neutrality”, I recognize that in order for this to happen we need a competitive free market to begin with. Allowing the phone and cable companies to leverage their duopoly on the “last mile” connection essentially means that no real competition exists, and customers cannot “vote with their feet” to an ISP which will configure their network to best meet their needs (IE: for many of us that includes never over-subscribing connections within or between major urban centres).

It turns out that to ultimately solve the “Net Neutrality” problem we really need to solve the “last mile monopoly” problem. While Net Neutrality legislation is one path, this presumes we retain the current monopoly infrastructure and then strongly regulate the monopolies. I truly believe that a better solution is to revoke the last mile monopoly from the incumbent providers, solving this problem the way we solved similar problems in electricity distribution and the provisioning of other utilities (Read: An ideal future communications infrastructure, how do we get there, and what is stopping us!).




Comments

Devil's Advocate wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 3:03 AM

While throttling the service of 3rd party providers is certainly an issue challenging "fair competition", I cannot accept the argument involving "infrastructure" here.

Before Bell started "managing" 3rd party ISP traffic, "congestion" wasn't a problem these 3rd parties were experiencing. And, since these providers are paying Bell for the bandwidth they are supplying to their customers, Bell has no business screwing with it.

Surely, contracts have been signed by both Bell and these 3rd parties?! It this were any other service than DSL, the 3rd party lawyers would be having a field day with such a breach.

In the matter of Bell throttling its own residential customers, net neutrality DOES have bearing, as Bell has already admitted it is targeting pretty much only BitTorrent and P2P activity.

Bell has done its best to paint all P2P and BitTorrent users as "bandwidth hogs" that "unfairly take away resources from all the others". This is an argument that doesn't scale, and directly illustrates a "net neutrality" issue.

In BOTH cases, Bell is certainly guilty of false advertising, failure to deliver service as promised, breach of contract, and unlawful contract revision.

How long has Bell been saying in their advertising things like "consistently fast speeds", "unlimited downloads", and "your connection is not shared with anyone"??

I have an "unlimited" high-speed account, which was acquired a number of years ago. The price of this account is in no way competitive. Bell has tried a few times (unsuccessfully) to extra-bill me for use that supposedly "exceeded the limit" of my contract. And since last fall, they've been throttling my 7MB connection on BT downloads to 30Kb/s between 4:00pm and 1:00am. Uploads are also capped, but I can't recall the limit.

I've noticed NO throttling when streaming videos via YouTube or Google, nor have I seen any evidence of throttling on any other activities - just BitTorrent.

If another independent DSL provider (with its own infrastructure) had existed, I would have dumped Bell a long time ago. Alas, that wasn't, and still isn't, an option, is it?

The CRTC should be threatening to reimpose regulation on all the communications companies at this point, starting with Bell.

paul wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 6:03 AM

Is Bell still taking the false ostrich approach, denying now that many, many people are openly rightfully objecting to their false capping of the internet downloads? even now when clearly the news media says otherwise!

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John Savard wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 7:03 AM

It is true that allowing people the choice to purchase cheaper Internet services from a provider that would not allow certain uses of the Internet that consume excessive bandwidth would, in a perfect competitive market, increase consumer choice. However, even where there are many providers of a service in a market, providers are still bigger than individual consumers; Canada has more than two banks, but the basic conditions of service are not an area of competition. So I'm not sure that more competition between ISPs would be sure to render the issue of "Net Neutrality" irrelevant.

Jim wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 9:03 AM

The concept I find difficult to accept is I build a network, or a pipeline. Then in what is called competition I am told that I must share what I built. Simply put you want to compete build your own network. I am not an advocate of any ISP I do however take exception to having what I have build legislated into you shall share, the same can be said of natural gas competitors and hydro competitors build your own. Quit looking for a free ride on the backs, sweat and investments of others.

Stefan Mochnacki wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 10:03 AM

I have a different point of view. What CBC and other content providers are doing is to transfer the load from their own servers downstream, i.e. to the network. I was dismayed a while ago when open source providers started using BitTorrent, since I have no desire to implement BT on my computers. This is a struggle not between Bell and "last mile" consumers or even ISPs, but between Bell and the likes of CBC, who instead of paying for their own servers and connection capacity, are passing the load to Bell and the "last mile" providers (of which Bell is probably the biggest one). I suggest we complain to CBC and other content providers for their down-loading tactics (yes, down-loading takes on a new meaning here...). Either that, or pay more for uploading capacity. PS: Why are people now saying "DSL" instead of "ADSL"? It is still asymmetric, isn't it? Perhaps much of the "throttling" is simply the signature of asymmetry in the "last mile" when using bottom-end BT servers which are contractually not meant to be servers?

Yousuf wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:03 AM

In response to "Jim", regarding Bell Canada being told to share their pipelines with competing ISPs, and how fair is that? Think of it like this, you're a renter of a building and your landlord has a side business where he is also your competitor. Wouldn't you want legislation protecting you from abuse by your landlord? Especially if your landlord is the only landlord in town. The ISPs are renting bandwidth from Bell, and they are compensating Bell for it. Once it leaves the last mile, these ISPs are providing the connection to the Internet themselves for it, so it's no longer using Bell's infrastructure. If they are willing to allow unfettered access to Internet, they are not affecting Bell's lines at that point, so Bell shouldn't interfere with it.

Rufus wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:03 AM

Easy to say "build your own", except that both the existing cable and phone systems were built under government protection, to make sure the investment required could be justified. Do you really want another forest of telephone poles beside the existing one? Or a maze of new trenches as companies place underground services willy-nilly over top of the existing ones? Who is going to spend the billions required to actually "build their own", with no assurance they'll be able to get their money back? Land-lines, under-sea cables, satellites - at some point all of these are going to be shared. Anything else is insanity.

Jason Kilpatrick wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:03 AM

Bell and CTV (and the Globe and Mail) are one entity.

The effect of Bell/CTV throttling the CBC's bit torrent is obvious.

Less obivious is the effect of throttling across the board regarding advertising, whether on CTV or in the Globe and Mail's print editions and on its web site.

Bell's throttling also is CTV throttling the CBC.

lex_alta wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 2:03 PM

Isn't CBC putting their crappy reality show on BT because it sucks?

Will wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 2:03 PM

Jim, what you say sounds like common sense, but sorry to say, it's bunk. Bell Canada was not the only company to establish this country's telecom network. It, in fact, was authorized by the canadian public to establish it's network "over and along all public property." (Babe, Robert E. - Encyclopedia Historica)

In true bell Bell spirit, they had competition surrender their patents. By 1881 all networks that others had built were subsequently taken over by Bell only. The government then then declared Bell patents void, again allowing competition to surface and further build communication infrastructure. Furthermore, the government had to force Bell to offer interconnectivity with rival telephone networks given that Bell was uninterested in establishing less lucrative and rural networks. So Jim, in true Bell fashion, Bell had others build their network then bought them out... fish in a barrel... so who's sweat and work established our networks???

1- the public

2- private entrepreneurship

The little guys Jim - Tax payers and People like us Jim. So we have every right as the public and entrepreneurs to complain about our service quality and how it is delivered to us because the public offered the network space and allows gave them an upper hand in business development offering them a huge upper hand or cushion to rest on in the market.

One more point, current competition doesn't have a free ride as you posit... they rent the infrastructure from Bell and Rogers... rest assured "the big guns" are on the take no matter what.

lex_alta wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 2:03 PM

The Devil's Advocate is just advocating for himself.

It's real simple. If you use more of a service you should pay more. ISPs no longer charge for bandwidth, but for access. P2P users hog the network -- much more so that youtube etc. Since P2P users pay the same amount for access why should they be able to slow the internet down for everyone?

You still have access to the internet, right? Does your contract state that you can access any material you please? Does your contract guarantee that you may use your internet connection with every single possible program?

If a court accepted your argument that Bell promised you the ability to use BT at a certain speed, Bell may still be better off paying you damages, then they would be if they had to upgrade the network solely so that a select group of users can trade copyrighted music, movies and pornography more quickly.

lex_alta wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 2:03 PM

Finally, withrespect to the 3rd party ISPs. Bell's abilty to let some kinds of traffic through more quickly than others will depend on how the contracts are structured.

Given that only a few internet users use BT and other P2P networks, but that these users hog all the bandwidth and slow down the network for everybody, it is possible that the non-P2P users could sue for breach of contract.

Bell is probably better off fighting with the P2P users. A class action would be hilarious. "The plaintiff submits that the defendant Bell entered into a conspiracy to prevent the plaintiff from obtaining various copyrighted materials and pornography for free. The plaintiffs losses amount to the cost of purchasing these materials had the plaintiff gone out and legally purchased copies, rather than steal them like a free-riding cheap skate."

Will wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 2:03 PM

Lex you make some rather rash assumptions in your point. Not all BT users partake in illegal distribution of copywritten material. I use it with my bandmates to transfer our own material to each other. And your opinion while highly probable does not garner a "bigger picture" in information flow and control by a powerful few.

These companies do actually offer, and advertised as such, tiered access and rates. Therefore, no matter what, you should be able to enjoy the product you purchase as offered.

In my experience, I have never had the bandwidth as offered - ever. Should the offeror add terms to such use which restrict such service provision... you might have some leg to stand on.

Fyad Ydonknetono wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 3:03 PM

Will, you're far too kind.

Lex is ignorant of any of the issues about net neutrality and is showing it by suggesting it is only the downloaders of illegal software and pornography that will be impacted by traffic shaping. Maybe this week, sure. Let throttling in the door, though, and the era of the internet as communication media for everyone will begin to end as individual blogs and sites become relegated to the equivilent of the online cable-access channel that nobody watches. It won't be production values that turn people away though, it will be incredibly slow access times as the individual can't afford the bandwidth quota that the large corporations can shell out for.

Also, s/he is trying to gain some moral superiority that her argument can't sustain by citing 'pornography' as a reason why people shouldn't care about traffic throttling. That's interesting because pornography *is not illegal*. What s/he apparently has a problem with, is thought/expression that s/he disagrees with. The same voice, in a differant era, was the one saying 'don't worry about us burning books, we're only burning the obscene ones...'

Sad, but not atypical of the 'arguments' against net neutrality.

Barry wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 4:03 PM

Eventually the INTERNET/INFORMATION HIGHWAY will become a public utility like water, roads, etc. It just takes us to realize this and demand what is already supported by public access. It'll become another public utility and supported by taxes/enterprise. Welcome to the twenty-first century.

lance wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sun, Mar 30 2008 7:03 PM

TekSavvy has posted traffic stats for a typical day before and after throttling.

www.dslreports.com/.../r20252608-How-much-Bells-throttling-affects-our-network-and-others

Take a look at the UDP segment. BitTorrent sends its payload over TCP. How can a 75% cut in UDP be justified? This doesn't save TekSavvy any money either, because they weren't forewarned they couldn't reduce their transit commitment.

campaign wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Mon, Mar 31 2008 5:03 AM

And now a campaign...

Stop the Throttler!

democraticmedia.ca/throttler

we need to regulate now before it gets worse, and increase ISP competition in the long run. Most importantly that competition should be community and city run - not more for-profit corporations.

Mike Hansen wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Mon, Mar 31 2008 8:03 AM

Some of you people sound like you're posting right from bells networks. Give it a rest. The argument that ANYBODY is getting a free lunch at any time is absurd. We ALL pay for access and distribution of our bits on the internet. Nothing is free. I pay to access the internet, the web site pays to distribute its content. Bit Torrent is a way of distributing the load to each individual user of the content in question. Essentially giving each person a piece, to distribute instead of the entire whole at one end.

Since when does any part of the network get to discriminate against the traffic coming over its wires? Should we start filtering Bell's website from our networks? What kind of nonsense are people talking. Net Neutrality is the concept that makes the internet WORK. Without it, nothing gets done. No packets go anywhere. Your competitions packets never pass through your network because they are your competition. Again, Neutrality poses that all traffic is anonymous. You handle it or you don't. You are either there or you're not. You do not get to discriminate against what traffic passes over the network. Period. That is not what the internet is. The faster businesses and the public learn this, the quicker we can get on with our lives. Otherwise the internet as we know it is going to come crashing to a grinding halt. We'll all be getting "destination not found" errors forever. Imagine... 404.... forever. That is what is at stake.

Devil's Advocate wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Mon, Mar 31 2008 4:03 PM

Anyone thinking it's okay to charge full price for a service, while supplying only half of it, and punishing its customers for taking advantage of the advertised features, must also believe the Canadian and American governments actually run those countries.

@lex_alta:

1) No, Iraq did NOT have any WMDs.

2) No, Canada is run by the Bank of Canada, while the US is run by the Federal Reserve. Both are ultimately run by the IMF.

(No problem, glad to help!)

My Name Is Border Gateway Protocol wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Tue, Apr 1 2008 9:04 AM

"Given that only a few internet users use BT and other P2P networks, but that these users hog all the bandwidth and slow down the network for everybody, it is possible that the non-P2P users could sue for breach of contract."

This is just false. BitTorrent is not only used by what I would describe as a majority of internet users - sometimes without their knowledge - it happens to be one of the fastest and most efficient ways to distribute information. For example, Vivendi's popular World of Warcraft, with some 11 million subscribers, uses BT to distribute patches. Many major news outlets use BT to distribute shows.

You can try to paint this as 'free-loading pirates' vs. honest Bell all you want - the fact of the matter is it's ordinary consumers vs nefarious, scheming Bell. If you had any grasp of the law of the land, you would know the scenario you paint is completely ridiculous on it's face. Bell may in fact face a class action lawsuit - so you best dump those BCE shares while you can.

Scott wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Tue, Apr 1 2008 11:04 AM

I just received a mail notice from Rogers that effective with June's billing, they are instituting a new charge per GB for anything they consider to be above normal usage. What a coincidence that Bell is throttling high usage and Rogers is instituting a new charge ... almost simultaneously. The word collusion comes to mind ... something smells.

Morganlefay wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Tue, Apr 1 2008 1:04 PM

I think it comes down to Bell and Rogers supply TV to Canadaians.

Bell and Rogers do not want you to have access to TV over the internet...specially if it is from some other provider.

MLF

Hilarious wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Tue, Apr 1 2008 2:04 PM

There is a deep and profound lack of understanding about P2P on display in these comments. There is also total confusion about the difference between the P2P debate (which should not even be a debate) and Net neutrality (despite the best efforts of the author).

@Stefan Mochnacki

I'm sorry, Stefan, but you haven't the faintest idea of what it is that you're commenting on. The idea that CBC, or any other provider of content, is 'downloading' network consumption to someone else is pure bunk. Let me illustrate this with a thought experiment. Two end-points wish to download a CBC program. One end-point is in Japan, the other in Toronto.

Case 1: They both download directly from CBC. The traffic needed for that download crosses the Internet, from Japan, impacting any network that must be crossed on the way. From Toronto, networks in Toronto are impacted. The impact is directly proportional to the size of the file, because they both have to download the entire file from CBC.

Case 2: They file has been distributed, via P2P. The end-point in Japan downloads it from peers in Japan. The end-point in Toronto downloads it from peers in Toronto. The impact on networks between the end-point and peer end-points which have the file, or parts of it, is distributed.

See how that works? Sounds pretty darn efficient, that P2P stuff. In fact, it's the most efficient method of moving content from an initial point to multiple end-points that is available at this time.

Let's use another example. You need to send everyone in the world a message, and you have to do it by phone. You can either call every person on the planet, one at a time, making many long-distance calls, or you can call five folks near you, and have them call five folks near them...

Before anyone starts with the bandwidth hog argument, stop and consider what the Internet is now being used for, and what the near future is likely to hold. As another comment noted, streaming content (youtube being a great example) consumes resources to a far greater degree than P2P traffic (it's that darn central versus distributed distribution stuff again). Heck, let's start adding-up VPN and SSL traffic, and start crunching numbers. How about sites that use too much Flash and ShockWave? Toss that in there too.

Now, Net neutrality. Forget P2P traffic. Let's instead look at VPN traffic. It's easily identifiable, and it's trivial to create throttling software that targets VPN traffic, without unintentionally affecting other traffic. You're an ISP, and you have noticed that many business customers use an awful lot of VPN traffic. Further, you notice that the big businesses tend to use more than small businesses, relatively. That's not fair to the small businesses, is it? I mean, the big guys are hogging throughput with their VPN here, VPN there, VPN everywhere. So, as the ISP, you throttle VPN to a crawl to help 'balance the load'. Reasonable so far? If not, why?

If you think that using VPN as an example doesn't hold water, then look back at the history of the mega-ISP's in the USA. Not only have they, and some continue to, throttled VPN traffic, some have attempted to promise business customers QoS (quality of service) for VPN traffic for a price. The majority of the benefit realized from said QoS is derived directly from relief from the ISP's own throttling. This is but one example of why net neutrality is so important.

Another simple example, Bell declares that accessing Rogers' site hogs more traffic than accessing Bell's site because Rogers is relatively remote from Bell customers, and the Rogers' page uses all sorts of Flash whizbangs and such. Following the rationalization, they deny access to the Rogers site.

Finally, let me give a telephone example. The telephone company has noticed that some people say 'like' an awful lot. Most people don't need to say 'like' every third word, but there are some who do. Further, many people can't stand folks who say 'like' constantly. The telephone company decides that they are going to mute the word 'like' to cut-down on voice traffic on their network. You can imagine how this impedes a conversation between two sixteen year-olds. Devastating, indeed. Acting as angles, the phone company offers to remove the mute for the low fee of $10 per month, on top of the regular subscription of $30 per month.

Do these examples sound fair?

Devil's Advocate wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Wed, Apr 2 2008 5:04 PM

I find it quite difficult to ignore the net neutrality issue when talking about Bell's throttling. For me, I'm sure it's due to the arbitrary selection of criteria used (file sharing) in the name of traffic "management".

I don't usually do this, but here's an analogy...

You're caught in a traffic jam of 200 cars, all mid-sized sedans - 95 blue ones of which you're one, 95 red ones and 10 yellow ones. You understand there's the need for that traffic cop in front of you to help clear the jam.

The cop waves you aside, getting you to pull over and drive on the shoulder. After that, he waves all the red and yellow cars into the control lane, and shunts all the other blue ones to the shoulder. And, no matter how much trouble it is for everybody to maneuver to accomplish what the cop says, he has no sympathy and insists you have to go along with it, or be arrested.

The shoulder is moving, but very slowly - the driving conditions are tricky, and up ahead of the accident, it all merges back to the affected lane. The control lane is getting away fairly well, and has the advantage when it reaches the merging other lane. All the blue cars trying to come off the shoulder have to creep along, waiting for the opening, backing up the shoulder.

I could end the story there, as it illustrates how stupid it is to treat anyone in such a situation as a 2nd class citizen, simply because of the colour of their car (see how I avoided a racial argument?! hehe). The jam would obviously take much longer to clear than if the nearest cars are flagged to do more constructive positional shuffles. And, everyone in a blue car (who paid just as much for their vehicles, by the way) got home much later.

But, let's say you asked the cop, "Why only blue cars?", and he said, "Because everyone who drives a blue car is a pig! They always take up more of the road than those in the red and yellow ones combined! As well, they wear out the road much faster, but expect the same privileges as everybody else! Besides, they're actually the ones who cause all the accidents and all these jams, and by keeping them back, I'm helping to prevent all future troubles! And, it's been proven - all blue cars are transporting TERRORISTS!"

I'm sure you can see I could have very easily used identical trucks, some carrying one thing, some carrying another, instead of coloured cars, and the analogy would be the same.

But, if I ever catch someone in a Bell uniform acting as a traffic cop... well, I can't be held responsible for what happens!

Rusell McOrmond wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Thu, Apr 3 2008 10:04 AM

@Devil's Advocate

I have an enhancement of your analogy. What if the only thing slowing down the traffic, and causing the congestion in the first place, is the existence of the traffic cops?

While there are high costs (environmental and otherwise) in widening roads to reduce congestion (this is in fact what the engineers always say to do), the same costs don't exist for telecommunications between many points. We are increasingly moving into a network where the speed of the routers doing the deep packet inspection are the greatest bottleneck in the networks, not the bandwidth of the communications channels.

While I recognize the issues with the high costs of submarine cables and other such trans-continental connections, or the costs of rural connections, the congestion within and between urban centers is entirely based on bad business decisions. I happen to believe it is because the phone and cable companies don't want to ever compete with properly configured end-to-end Internet providers.

I find it interesting how many people in the comments have fallen for the line from the phone and cable companies that the congestion is inevitable, and that it is services that compete with them (P2P of entertainment VOIP, etc) which are the logical scapegoats. Please look below the surface of the claims from these companies!

I too am baffled how P2P entered into a discussion of competitive access issues.

Devil's Advocate wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Fri, Apr 4 2008 12:04 AM

"I too am baffled how P2P entered into a discussion of competitive access issues."

That's probably not a hard one...

When Bell (as well as Cogeco, Rogers, etc.) started their throttling, their excuse (when finally backed into the corner) was P2P and BitTorrent users were supposedly "hogging" all the bandwidth, thereby raising the issue we view as "discriminatory access".

When Bell started throttling the resellers, the same throttling criteria was being used.

The resellers, naturally, are upset that the interference seriously affects their ability to compete with Bell, not just because of reduced capacity to deliver, but also because Bell is hampering the very benefit that customers were looking for when they left Bell - Unthrottled P2P and BitTorrent!!

One other thing:

Because the entire DSL infrastructure emanates from Bell, all the reseller bandwidth that is throttled becomes extra bandwidth for Bell to use. That's another way Bell is attempting to tip the scale of competition.

As I said, it's hard not to talk about the one thing without bringing up the other.

If it weren't for this P2P/BitTorrent propaganda that has been successfully spread around, all of the ISPs that have tried this throttling strategy would have had to think of another way to "open space" for the coming wave of MAFIAA-sanctioned media sites...

...May I suggest NETWORK UPGRADING?!!

lex_alta wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Sat, Apr 12 2008 3:04 AM

You do have an argument in contract. I would not that Bell promises that from your computer to their CO/HUB they may guarantee a certain speed. It is unthinkable, and to use a doctrine of contract interpretation contrary to business efficacy and the officious bystander, for Bell to promise that traffic between two points on the internet would flow at a certain speed is ludicrous. Therefore, I think it is arguable that Bell could say that your connection remains a 7MBS between your connection and Bell's CO, but that there are various points along the network that Bell has the ability to to give priority to some kinds of traffic and not others. Obviously this preference strictly violates the principle of net neutrality.

Also, you claim that it takes both parties consent to change a contract? It depends. Many contracts are ongoing, ie a monthly fee for service. Either party is presumprtively free to refuse to continue under the old contract, and negotiate a new one (well with respect to Bell, Teachers Pension, TD and the US Hedgies, they decide the contract and you either take it or you don't). So unless you contract that specifies a term of XX months, yes they can change the terms of service whenever they want.

The net neutrality is the much more interesting issue though. It has a great feel to it. However, I think that bit torrent users and other file sharers are about the worst test case for it. Yes I am aware that people do use bit torrents for things other than porn, illegal sharing of copyrighted material etc. But I am not convinced that this type of traffic does not constitute the vast majority of what is available on the peer-to-peer networks.

I think that the throttling is actually a pretty good result for you guys. I have argued this on some other boards, and contrary to my earlier contentions, many of the ISPs continue to measure user bandwidth. The ISPs might decide to start charging you for it. I could live with that. I pay like $20 a month for access and use XX GB of band-width, you pay $80 month and use 4XX of bandwidth. What I do not want to see is my internet slow down during peak hours or my internet fees go up so that way the ISPs can pay for more infrastructure, so that we can proudly proclaim that we have "net neutrality."

Heavy users should pay more. That simple.

Rusell McOrmond wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Mon, Apr 14 2008 2:04 PM

lex_alta,

"traffic between two points on the internet would flow at a certain speed is ludicrous."

Note: We aren't talking about two points on the Internet with the throttling debate, given the traffic between the customer and the ISP (which isn't Bell!) isn't even Internet traffic. There may be Internet packets encapsulated within these other packets, but that is none of Bells business to even know that. Bell may be found guilty of violating CRTC regulation as well as federal privacy legislation even in inspecting the packets to determine that they contain Internet traffic.

I've posted an additional article today to help clarify, given some of the comments seem to be focused on a different topic.

Devil's Advocate wrote re: Separating the competitive access issues from the Net Neutrality issues.
on Thu, Apr 17 2008 4:04 AM

Lex...

A contract is a firm agreement between 2 parties, not an implied agreement accepted by 1 of those parties. Mutual Acceptance is needed when changes are PROPOSED by either party, regardless of what that party tries to say.

This I have already proven a few times, when Bell made sweeping changes to the TOS and tried to tell me I had to go along with it, or cancel. Presently, my "unlimited" status stands after 3 attempts to weasel me out of it. Bell also ended up giving me free service for 1 year the last time, when they tried sabotaging my service and account payment details, in an effort to manufacture a "legitimate" reason to terminate me.

All this, because I was in the right and wouldn't let them walk away from the original contract.

As for all the technical arguments, they get overridden by a few simple factors...

1) It is necessary to open and inspect data packets in order to implement throttling.

2) It is NOT LEGAL for a provider to examine the packets for their content (Constitution, and Privacy Law).

3) Services need to be delivered AS ADVERTISED, and AS PROMISED. Failure or inability to do so needs to be addressed by compensation. (Bell has never talked about compensating anyone for the loss of service.) Failure to compensate seals the deal on the charge of "Bad Faith Bargaining".

4) BitTorrent/P2P does NOT consume the majority of bandwidth. The data is out there. (Google's your friend.)

5) The Bell network was built with PUBLIC MONEY. Deregulation was agreed to only under the conditions of the CRTC guidelines that are STILL in place. The key element to this arrangement was that Bell was to open its infrastructure to be leased by competition, and not to impede these competitors by engaging in unfair business practices. The network, really isn't Bell's.

6) If Bell genuinely had a "congestion" issue that needed to be "managed" with such drastic measures, they should have FIRST approached the CRTC with the story, and allowed the CRTC to collect feedback from the public, BEFORE simply playing God with our data and the resellers.

Technically, we should be able to demand that Bell immediately stop screwing with OUR data and go back to maintaining OUR network the way WE, by agreement, have already laid it out. They're doing something that is not only illegal, but against several established protocols that are supposed to be governing the scope of their involvement.

Huge "Breach of Contract" argument, maybe, at the very least?

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