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Price cuts won't help Windows Vista: analyst

Microsoft announced in some markets, prices for Vista will drop by as much as 50 per cent. It’s not clear how much customers will save, if anything, in North America.

Microsoft Corp. plans to cut prices for its Vista operating system, but an analyst says user confusion is an even bigger issue than pricing.

"In some ways, it's an attempt to remove any barriers that may be dissuading people from buying Vista," said Michael Cherry, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, a Kirkland, Wash.-based research firm. "But the missing step here is simplifying what people need to know to buy. People are so confused about the versions and what they need on hardware that they don't even get to the price."

Late Thursday, Microsoft announced plans to cut Vista's retail prices. The company did not flesh out the details -- how much prices will drop, or the exact timing -- but did say that customers in some developing countries will see cuts of as much as 50 per cent. The price cuts, said a company executive, will be synchronized with the retail release of Vista Service Pack 1 "later this year."

The Redmond, Wash.-based software giant originally planned to stop selling Windows XP on Jan. 31, 2008, but last October decided to make the XP available until June 30.

The company is currently encouraging users to upgrade to Vista, and says makes it easier for users to find files and folders and to view all applications they have open at any given time.

Microsoft also says Vista has more advanced backup and security features, such as a spyware remover and a new firewall designed to prevent infected PCs from spreading malware.

Microsoft didn't reduce the number of Vista versions on Thursday; instead, it said it would cut the price of the OS. How much the company's didn't spell out except in general terms: In developing countries some prices will be slashed in half, while in established markets such as in the U.S. and Europe, prices may fall just a few percentage points, or not at all.

"So is this really that big of a deal?" Cherry asked rhetorically. Perhaps not, he argued, since Microsoft makes more than 80 per cent of its client operating system revenue from sales to OEMs, who pre-install Windows on new PCs. "That's the heart of the problem. How many people are going to walk in and buy a retail copy, even with a price cut?"

Instead, Cherry said, this is a pragmatic move that probably doesn't come with a lot of hidden motives. "They're playing with price," he said. "That's maybe not their usual thing, but these are potentially unusual times.

"For one thing, I don't sense the need that people think they need to have the latest technology anymore," Cherry continued, giving his interpretation of what's forced Microsoft's hand. "That's one. The other is that Microsoft has always gambled that if their software got bigger and they added more features, they didn't have to fine-tune it because the hardware would be there to bail them out.

"That's not what happened here with Vista."

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Our company, like many others, is waiting of the release of VISTA service pack 1 before making the move. After the initial run of fixes the current XP environment is stable, runs well and requires a lot less powerful hardware at the desktop. We recognize that there are some nice enhancements with VISTA but there is no compelling "must have" feature. So with all the effort to convert; upgrading hardware, retraining the users, retesting all the desktop software for compatibility and so on, plus the cost of the software, why would one not wait until VISTA is at least stable before taking the plunge? My main beef with Microsoft is why would you alter the basic user interface? The first users we converted to VISTA for a test had to relearn even things as simple as where the "shut down" command was. I know people will say "it is not that hard" but when you have hundreds of users, most of whom are used to their routine, even a simple change results in dozens of support calls, publication of FAQ sheets and other changes which cost the company time and money. Microsoft needs to realize that change for change's sake does not go over well. We're all for changes which make systems faster, more stable and more secure but VISTA does not seem to have met that test yet.
Written by: Pim Rom-Colthoff, from Aurora
Is it worth the change?Reply to this commentReport an innapropriate comment
If it wasn't for 'end of support' strategies, companies today would still use NT4. Nowadays, it seems people are switching to open-source OS's (Linux & various BSD's) because they're faster, more secure, more stable, & less costly in the long-run. We'll see if Microsoft is up to the challenge :)
Written by: Patrice Remy, from Quebec
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For my home use, I have switched to Mac Notebook, Macpro 15" Intel Core 2 and as Patrick mentioned faster, secue and stable and most importantly more fun. I haven't yet turned on my PC XP Pro for 2 months.Don't see a need for. Iwork does what Office did for PC.
Written by: Azim, from Edmonton
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I agree with Patrice Remy. I moved my PC from Vista to Ubuntu last month as I have finally got tired of upgrading to more and more RAM and CPU just to run more and more eye-candy without any other "must have" benefits. Ubuntu uses about 50% less RAM for about 50% more eye-candy. I use it primarily for running my photography business/hobby and can still have the same work-flow on Linux. Oh and everything I run on it is free, more or less. Do the maths....
Written by: Joe, from Toronto
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No way is Vista worth the change, even at supposedly reduced prices. All the wonderful new "features" that are supposed to get my attention are already available in any half-way decent add-on security package for XP. So why spend all the money on Vista, new hardware, all that training/learning time for new interfaces, plus not knowing if all the peripherals will work anyway??? Sorry, NO NO NO to Vista, even with SP1 or any other service packs. At the rate the complaints are coming in for Vista, it will be SP99 before it works as well as XP!!!
Written by: Howard, from
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I still see Vista as a money grab from Microsoft. Toronto District School Board worked with a Microsoft consultant for 6 months and could not get Vista to function within out environment successfully. We are a mixed platform of Macs and PCs. It is not very Mac friendly. If forced to upgrade to Vista it would cost tax payers millions of dollars for no real benifit.
Written by: Bruce Menezes, from Toronto
honest attempt at creating a new OS turned into half baked u..Reply to this commentReport an innapropriate comment
I think Microsoft started an honest attempt at creating a new OS, only for it to turn into a half baked upgrade. Add in the marketing goof of splitting it too many ways and you wind up having several points against it. Price, versions, hardware requirments, application compatibility, the lack of any must-have features over XP, and finally the fact that XP is actually running well right now. It all adds up to a big FUBAR! Don't get me wrong...I'm personally a fan of Microsoft, and was able take part in the early betas (I tried 3 versions), and then I got a copy of Ultimate in the end. I like it, but I also have had my share of problems with it. I can also see and hear about the confusion which causes people to hold back from adopting it. From all my sources, a lot of businesses are going to hold back...at least until SP1. Consumers are are just confused. I tell most of my friends...just buy it with a new system. Don't bother buying it as an upgrade. That way you know it works, and it will be OK that its something new, just like the system. Besides it's still to early to call on the "friends and family network" for help support for Vista. Not that many people know it, so they won't be able to help you when you are stuck. If I didn't get a free version, and I wasn't a techie, I'm sure I would be holding out for bit longer. ...as for you Linux and Mac guys... I haven't heard of consumers switching away from Windows because of the Vista confusion, and a wouldn't suggest it either. There just isn't the family and friends network for support for either of them. So just stay with XP, unless you are a movie editor then you can buy a Mac. And don't bother with Linux, unless you want to make your old PC's useful again as a firewall or something (think 333's). XP works and you can find someone to help you if it doesn't.
Written by: Virtual, from winnipeg
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I recently purchases a copy of Vista Home Premium after a hardware upgrade. This version does not allow you to upgrade without losing your existing programs as the registry is replaced. During the install there is a screen that asks if you would like to keep all of your old settings and programs. But the screen is "greyed" out. Apparently this feature is available only on Vista Ultimate. Premium was already over priced and Ultimate is almost the cost of a new box! This one example of corporate greed has turned me off of Microsoft forever. My next purchase will be a Mac. Goodbye MS! So long and thanks for all the fish.
Written by: Lawrence Glazer, from Edmonton
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